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  • Ludo
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    Originally posted by zY|
    My point was that he's being a pedantic jew about it. Just because the word that google translate gave him isn't audibly shouted in his ear doesn't mean a goddamn thing.
    So we are to believe something was spoken, which is the entire hinge on the explanation for Jose's poor showing in terms of stamina, without any proof of it? I mean, if it isn't on the broadcast then where the fuck is it? Are we talking telepathy here? Maybe it's time to come off your high horse since your not offering an opinion or new information and stick to bitching vehemently about how the judges don't score rounds like you do.

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  • zY|
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    You have some good observations but I think the conclusions you draw from them are huge leaps in logic.

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  • Ludo
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    The only reason I actually went back and rewatched was because all this "Jose was sick" stuff started coming out the day after and I didn't really believe it(as is the case with most things coming out of Ed Soares camp after the fact). I remembered Ed saying that he was putting on extra muscle because he'd been on a long layoff and when ya'll mentioned all this happening during the fight I got curious so I rewatched everything that happened between rounds and whatnot. My thing is though, if he didn't want to take anything away from Mark why say "I fatigued because I put on extra muscle lately" instead of "Mark was a great opponent, I give him all the credit tonight"? I don't get why this antibiotics thing didn't come out during the post fight press conference or in the interview.

    I honestly think he underestimated Hominik here. He started believing his own hype and thought he could just tap his fist to Mark's cheek once and he'd go down. He may very well have been sick, but why he didn't say anything about it is a mystery. It's clear something was off from the start of the second round on, but given the fact that we saw Hominick neutralizing his ability to pass, or do much of anything other than land a few clean shots on the ground I'm more inclined to believe that he simply took this camp off so to speak. He did the Rampage thing because he thought he was invincible.

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  • zY|
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    Originally posted by SPX
    I'll at least give Ludo this: He went after it. He not only learned what the translation of "antibiotics" is and he re-watched the fight. That's a hell of a lot more than I'm willing to do.
    My point was that he's being a pedantic jew about it. Just because the word that google translate gave him isn't audibly shouted in his ear doesn't mean a goddamn thing.

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  • Ludo
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    I agree it's not a big deal. I'm just saying that on the broadcast I have there is nothing that I can hear in which Jose mentions anything that even sounds like antibióticos. It's entirely possible though that the SAP broadcast was closer to Aldo's corner and was able to catch something that the english broadcast didn't. I just kind of doubt it is all.

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  • SPX
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    Originally posted by zY|
    Today I learned Ludo speaks Portuguese.
    I'll at least give Ludo this: He went after it. He not only learned what the translation of "antibiotics" is but he also re-watched the fight. That's a hell of a lot more than I'm willing to do.
    Last edited by SPX; 05-06-2011, 01:44 AM.

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  • SPX
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    Originally posted by LudoCain
    Again. Antibióticos did not come up at any point in the exchange between Aldo and his corner at least not that was audible to anyone. I suppose it's possible he said it at the end of the fight before the judges decision but I'm doubting that as well. He spent almost no time with his corner between the time the final bell rang and he interviewed with Ed and Joe. He did pushups like Hominick did, then he was getting paraded around on someone's shoulders like he was about to engage in a chicken fight, then they waited for the judges decision, and then he pulled out a flag to hold on the front of his body while Dana put the belt on.

    Well, we have two options here. . .

    1. You're right.

    2. There's a conspiracy that involves not only a Bloody Elbow forum member, but also a Portuguese-speaking fan writer for the site, and the actual article writer.

    In any case, it's not a huge deal for me, and I'm just going by this article.
    Last edited by SPX; 05-06-2011, 01:15 AM.

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  • zY|
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    Today I learned Ludo speaks Portuguese.

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  • Ludo
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    Originally posted by SPX
    Jose Aldo dominated the first round of his UFC 129 bout against Mark Hominick. Shortly after the second round started though, the champion seemed visibly tired. Commentator Joe Rogan speculated that it could be a result of a bad weight cut, bringing up that Aldo was light headed and had to excuse himself during the Q&A portion that featured the 7 UFC champs. It seems that wasn't the case though.

    BE Reader fafefifofo, brought up that right before Rogan interviewed Aldo, he complained to his corner that he should have taken antibiotics. Bloody Elbow's Tom Mendes of Brazil was able to confirm this. Here's a translation of the cornerman's reply to Jose Aldo:
    "Antibiotics would not have helped at all, you’re the champion kid, fuck antibiotics, everything is okay. You fought well, smooth and composed. "
    Aldo made no mention of this on the post-fight interview with Joe Rogan. This of course could be because he didn't take anything away from the very game Mark Hominick who took the fight to him, and showed a tremendous amount of heart and determination.
    Again. Antibióticos did not come up at any point in the exchange between Aldo and his corner at least not that was audible to anyone. I suppose it's possible he said it at the end of the fight before the judges decision but I'm doubting that as well. He spent almost no time with his corner between the time the final bell rang and he interviewed with Ed and Joe. He did pushups like Hominick did, then he was getting paraded around on someone's shoulders like he was about to engage in a chicken fight, then they waited for the judges decision, and then he pulled out a flag to hold on the front of his body while Dana put the belt on.
    Last edited by Ludo; 05-06-2011, 01:03 AM.

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  • SPX
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    So I guess it was after the fight and not between rounds.

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  • SPX
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    Jose Aldo dominated the first round of his UFC 129 bout against Mark Hominick. Shortly after the second round started though, the champion seemed visibly tired. Commentator Joe Rogan speculated that it could be a result of a bad weight cut, bringing up that Aldo was light headed and had to excuse himself during the Q&A portion that featured the 7 UFC champs. It seems that wasn't the case though.

    BE Reader fafefifofo, brought up that right before Rogan interviewed Aldo, he complained to his corner that he should have taken antibiotics. Bloody Elbow's Tom Mendes of Brazil was able to confirm this. Here's a translation of the cornerman's reply to Jose Aldo:
    "Antibiotics would not have helped at all, you’re the champion kid, fuck antibiotics, everything is okay. You fought well, smooth and composed. "
    Aldo made no mention of this on the post-fight interview with Joe Rogan. This of course could be because he didn't take anything away from the very game Mark Hominick who took the fight to him, and showed a tremendous amount of heart and determination.

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  • Ludo
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    Alright. I just finished rewatching all of what happened between rounds and the post fight interview with Joe Rogan. At no point ever did Jose, his corner, or Ed Saores ever mention Antibiotics. It would have been pretty obvious if they had even in portugese. I looked it up and it's antibióticos. So in the words of Gene Wilder "Wrong sir, you are wrong!"

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  • SPX
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    Originally posted by LudoCain
    Yeah, usually he's translating what the cornermen are saying to the fighter. I don't think I've ever heard a translation of a fighter talking to the corner between rounds. I'm going to rewatch the fight and see if it pops up because I must have missed it.
    Even if HE doesn't translate it, that doesn't mean no one can.

    There are a lot of people in the world who speak Portuguese.

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  • Ludo
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    Originally posted by SPX
    Haven't you ever heard that dude translating the Brazilian' corner's speech?
    Yeah, usually he's translating what the cornermen are saying to the fighter. I don't think I've ever heard a translation of a fighter talking to the corner between rounds. I'm going to rewatch the fight and see if it pops up because I must have missed it.

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  • SPX
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    Originally posted by LudoCain
    Wait. How do we know Aldo said anything about taking antibiotics? Motherfucker doesn't even speak english for christs sakes.
    Haven't you ever heard that dude translating the Brazilian' corner's speech?

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