UFC 129 toronto GSP-Shields

[poopoo333]

Mendes is going to beat Aldo.

[SPX]

How do you think Shields would do against Silva?

By the way, I figured you'd kind of be like "I told you so" since Shields at least took a few rounds off of GSP and fucked his eye up.

[Luke]

Just rewatched some of UFC 129 and my final thoughts are:

Aldo is unbeatable on his feet but once he's on his back he's just another fighter ,his ground game is no where near as good as advertised

The Shields that gassed in the 2nd round when beating Kampmann would have had a better chance of beating GSP than the one that actually fought him last saturday.

Shields need to go back to 185

That is all

[SPX]

They reunited most of the Karate Kid cast for this one:

Thanks again for this. I'm passing it on.

Just showed it to a friend and he was like, Holy shit!

[trotterz]

Good to hear. I figured as much.

He is suspended 60 days anyway, but at least he can start training again in a couple days.

[SPX]

Would it stop a guy who is fighting you for a sports title or coming at you with murderous intent? No. Would it stop a guy who's just generally being drunk and belligerent? Probably.

I think some of those locks can be used to control people who are disruptive and resisting somewhat, but not all-out violent.

Yeah, it probably depends. I know a broken arm would probably be enough for me to take my ball and go home.

[SPX]

For the info, this is just out on our local sport website.
I saw on mmajunkie that they said GSP would be fine and he will get his vision back.
But on here, Zahabi is saying that the doctor said that George will get his vision back 100% in a little less than 10 days. So it is even faster than Everybody were expecting. Maybe we will see him back soon enough
http://www.rds.ca/combats/chroniques/319082.html

Good to hear. I figured as much.

[Svino]

Aside from that, a broken wrist or finger is not going to stop anyone. Hell, a broken arm probably wouldn't stop most guys.

Would it stop a guy who is fighting you for a sports title or coming at you with murderous intent? No. Would it stop a guy who's just generally being drunk and belligerent? Probably.

I think some of those locks can be used to control people who are disruptive and resisting somewhat, but not all-out violent.

[trotterz]

For the info, this is just out on our local sport website.
I saw on mmajunkie that they said GSP would be fine and he will get his vision back.
But on here, Zahabi is saying that the doctor said that George will get his vision back 100% in a little less than 10 days. So it is even faster than Everybody were expecting. Maybe we will see him back soon enough

http://www.rds.ca/combats/chroniques/319082.html

[SPX]

I don't know if you guys have ever heard of Tai Chi Push Hands or Joshua Waitzkin. Waitzkin is the kid the movie "Searching for Bobby Fischer" is about. Since I am a chess nerd, that is one of my favorite movies and I have followed Waitzkin somewhat. He grew up to become a Tai Chi Push Hands champion. He is now a 4 stripe brown belt in BJJ under Marcelo Garcia. He wrote a book called "The Art of Learning" which I recommend highly. It is sort of an autobiography/theory on how to learn to be awesome at everything.

I know who Josh is and I have seen Searching for Bobby Fischer many, many times. I actually used to kind of be into chess when I was a teenager. Not to the point of entering tournaments or anything (I was never good enough to win), but I bought a few books and even had a little portable chess computer thing that I would carry around with me and play whenever I was just sitting somewhere waiting on something.

I didn't know Josh was into martial arts that's interesting.

ANYWAY- Tai Chi push hands is what Aikido would look like against a resisting opponent, but only if he was not allowed to grab you at all. It basically becomes and armdragging drill (something you do to warm up in wrestling).

You know, I've heard that there was a competitive facet to Tai Chi and I never understood how that was possible. It seemed like a misnomer. Now that I have seen it in action, I still don't get it. I don't even understand what was happening there, what the competition was, or how that guy actually won.

When I think martial arts I think that there's something about it that can be damaging, whether it's strikes, or throws, or locks, or chokes, or whatever.

[SPX]

When I run into a TMA guy, I usually just play along... it is not worth getting into an argument about for me, and besides that, most of them can never admit that they spent 10 years basically learning to dance.

If it slips out that I practice jj, someone almost always says.... "Oh I did X". I usually just go, "oh cool, that stuff looks pretty cool. What I do looks pretty stupid, it has no grace comparitively." Or something like that. It is my backhanded way of insulting them without them knowing it.

Some of these places "spar" but it is within the confines of that game. You can't throw someone by their fingers... it is flat out impossible. People don't stand there or bum rush with their arms out like a mummy. Honestly, it is really damn difficult to wrist lock someone period unless you control their whole body (like from an omoplata- or you get it from mount). You basically have to isolate that joint where they can't get it away or turn their body out of it. Aside from that, a broken wrist or finger is not going to stop anyone. Hell, a broken arm probably wouldn't stop most guys. That is why I believe in chokes and punching people.

I have two things to say:

1. I try to talk to them a bit and see what their training is actually like. But I agree that usually I'm just like, "Okay, whatever" or worse, I actually start to argue with them.

2. EVERYONE spars within "the confines of that game." Doesn't matter if it's TKD or MT or BJJ.

[SPX]

Just from reading online. A lot of judo guys in the grappling forum say that in Japan, it is about 1 year of regular training for a bb. Also there are a lot of paths to bb... I know a guy who basically got his bb by taking his daughter to a lot of tournaments (at least that is how he described it). He trains also, but you get "points" for doing certain things like competing and coaching... Anyway, I have first hand knowledge but from sources I trust I have heard that in Japan it can be done in 1 year.

I only have experience at the one school I trained at, but there at least, you weren't getting a black belt in a year regardless of what you did. Like I said, that one guy I mentioned (whom I hated) was ALWAYS fucking there and he was on track to get his in about 3 years. It was basically like Penn getting his BJJ BB on an accelerated track.

[Ludo]

Hell, a broken arm probably wouldn't stop most guys. That is why I believe in chokes and punching people.

There's an old addage in Sambo that translates something like "one broken leg equals three men lost". It's about warfare and how if one man's leg is broken it takes two more to carry him away.

[MMA_scientist]

I don't know if you guys have ever heard of Tai Chi Push Hands or Joshua Waitzkin. Waitzkin is the kid the movie "Searching for Bobby Fischer" is about. Since I am a chess nerd, that is one of my favorite movies and I have followed Waitzkin somewhat. He grew up to become a Tai Chi Push Hands champion. He is now a 4 stripe brown belt in BJJ under Marcelo Garcia. He wrote a book called "The Art of Learning" which I recommend highly. It is sort of an autobiography/theory on how to learn to be awesome at everything.

ANYWAY- Tai Chi push hands is what Aikido would look like against a resisting opponent, but only if he was not allowed to grab you at all. It basically becomes and armdragging drill (something you do to warm up in wrestling).

See it here:

[MMA_scientist]

Reading comments like that always makes me long for the old-school days of style vs. style UFC events. It also makes me frustrated that we can't get more of these people involved in MMA betting.

I have a friend who has been into Aikido for a decade or so. I have to suppress my eye-rolls around him, although they do some actual sparring. He clearly does have some skill in what I would call "Judo", but I'm sure he's picked it up at a far far slower rate than if he were training it properly.

When I run into a TMA guy, I usually just play along... it is not worth getting into an argument about for me, and besides that, most of them can never admit that they spent 10 years basically learning to dance.

If it slips out that I practice jj, someone almost always says.... "Oh I did X". I usually just go, "oh cool, that stuff looks pretty cool. What I do looks pretty stupid, it has no grace comparitively." Or something like that. It is my backhanded way of insulting them without them knowing it.

Some of these places "spar" but it is within the confines of that game. You can't throw someone by their fingers... it is flat out impossible. People don't stand there or bum rush with their arms out like a mummy. Honestly, it is really damn difficult to wrist lock someone period unless you control their whole body (like from an omoplata- or you get it from mount). You basically have to isolate that joint where they can't get it away or turn their body out of it. Aside from that, a broken wrist or finger is not going to stop anyone. Hell, a broken arm probably wouldn't stop most guys. That is why I believe in chokes and punching people.