Ufc 130

[Luke]

Yeah Mir should be able to handle this. I wonder who the better wrestler is. Mir's strength and cardio advantage should help that a bit. He was supposedly working on his wrestling a lot due to the Lesnar loss.

This was 2003 so.......

[edman5555]

We have talked about this before, Mir's fights are very hard to cap. You never know what is going to happen. He either comes out and slays or folds up immediately and there is no rhyme or reason to it. The Cro Cop fight is teh only time I recall seeing him in a protracted boring fight. I will give him that, he usually brings the excitement. I really don't think Roy's striking is that good and Mir is more versatile on the ground. Mir is bigger and stronger as well. All of that said, I still don't know what will happen. But I lean Mir.

Yeah Mir should be able to handle this. I wonder who the better wrestler is. Mir's strength and cardio advantage should help that a bit. He was supposedly working on his wrestling a lot due to the Lesnar loss.

[Johnny Unreliable]

We have talked about this before, Mir's fights are very hard to cap. You never know what is going to happen. He either comes out and slays or folds up immediately and there is no rhyme or reason to it. The Cro Cop fight is teh only time I recall seeing him in a protracted boring fight. I will give him that, he usually brings the excitement. I really don't think Roy's striking is that good and Mir is more versatile on the ground. Mir is bigger and stronger as well. All of that said, I still don't know what will happen. But I lean Mir.

I'm leaning Mir as well but I always worry about him coming in shape. He's just very inconsistent but I think talent wise he's better than Big Country. On paper he should win. My books at -115 that's not that far off even odds. I take him at plus anything for a unit or two.

[Svino]

I lean Mir, also. I've been underrating his striking for too long.

[MMA_scientist]

We have talked about this before, Mir's fights are very hard to cap. You never know what is going to happen. He either comes out and slays or folds up immediately and there is no rhyme or reason to it. The Cro Cop fight is teh only time I recall seeing him in a protracted boring fight. I will give him that, he usually brings the excitement. I really don't think Roy's striking is that good and Mir is more versatile on the ground. Mir is bigger and stronger as well. All of that said, I still don't know what will happen. But I lean Mir.

[SPX]

It's so hard.

Earlier I said Nelson. Now I'm leaning Mir.

So I guess Mir. Which means Nelson will win.

So Nelson.

[MMA_scientist]

So if you HAD to pick a winner:

Mir or Nelson?

Mir.

[poopoo333]

So if you HAD to pick a winner:

Mir or Nelson?

[Mr. IWS]

We already saw what happened when he tried to grapple with a real world class guy (Pe De Pano)

Pssssssshhhhhhh

E'rbody knows that was fat Mir after the accident.

Mir > Pano

[SPX]

Carwin/Bigfoot can battle for best HW that has been caught for steroid use.

LOL

[MMA_scientist]

They seriously need to merge the UFC HW's with SF. Put Mir in with Werdum and watch Werdum create absolute wreckage on Mir's ground game, for a battle of submission artists. We already saw what happened when he tried to grapple with a real world class guy (Pe De Pano)... Mir's ground game is overrated and Cain would beat his ass relentlessly. It wouldn't even be competitive IMO. Overeem/Cain can battle for the belt. Cormier/Lesnar can battle out the wrestling. Carwin/Bigfoot can battle for best HW that has been caught for steroid use. JDS/Fedor would be good times. It needs to happen.

[SPX]

They really do. Seriously though, it is like they are purposely trying to confuse us. Many of these guys are just going by made up names too... then you have two brothers that look nearly identical and go by the same nickname. Patricio Pitbull Freire and Patcricky Pitbull Freire. Antonio Rodrigo Minotauro Noguiera and Antonio Rogerio Minotoro Noguira. WTF, come up with a different name that your twin. If your parents couldn't get creative, now is your chance, use your nickname to help us distinguish you from your brother...

No fucking shit!

I didn't even realize that about the Super Freire Bros. until the other day when PP kept calling Patricky "Pitbull." I had to double-check the shit because I thought his ass was getting them mixed up.

[Mr. IWS]

Apparenly, Mir can beat Cain too.

"Right now in the UFC I believe I would give him the best fight right now and that’s not taking anything away from him as I feel he is the best fighter in the world right now. I would really be hard-pressed to defeat him, the only reason I pose a bigger threat than some of the other guys is because we really don’t know how well he defends submissions. I think it would take someone who could keep him down for awhile and test how he fights off of his back. Obviously his wrestling is extraordinary as evidenced in his fight against Brock, but who knows how well he would do if he were put in a dangerous spot with a good submission artist. His striking is good, but he does throw short punches which got him in trouble with Cheick Kongo, but unfortunately for Kongo he could not stay on his feet. I think Carwin would be a good match-up for him as well. He punches hard enough to keep his opponents honest and is difficult to put down. Carwin would probably have a good chance at stuffing Cain’s shot, but we really don’t know how well Carwin fights off his back either."
Former UFC Heavyweight Champion Frank Mir believes he can give division kingpin Cain Velasquez "the best fight right now" as he heads into UFC 130 on May 28 to try and prove he still belongs in the upper echelon of Zuffa heavyweights. The best argument he can make is stopping Roy Nelson a week from Saturday at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, but does whooping "Big Country" get him a shot at the belt? Or the loser of Shane Carwin vs. Junior dos Santos? And do you agree with his assessment of Velasquez? Mir tells Bryan Levick that Cain has yet to demonstrate how well he "fights off his back" -- but who amongst the 265-pounders is good enough to keep him there?

inb4MircantTakehimdown

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[MMA_scientist]

Fucking Brazilians.

Oliveiras and Silvas and all that bullshit. . . They need to pick some different names.

They really do. Seriously though, it is like they are purposely trying to confuse us. Many of these guys are just going by made up names too... then you have two brothers that look nearly identical and go by the same nickname. Patricio Pitbull Freire and Patcricky Pitbull Freire. Antonio Rodrigo Minotauro Noguiera and Antonio Rogerio Minotoro Noguira. WTF, come up with a different name that your twin. If your parents couldn't get creative, now is your chance, use your nickname to help us distinguish you from your brother...

[SPX]

Fucking Brazilians.

Oliveiras and Silvas and all that bullshit. . . They need to pick some different names.