UFC 131 JDS vs Carwin

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  • SPX
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 23875

    JDS just hit -158 on Pinnacle. I hope it's the start of a new trend.
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    • Thewisemann
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 1989

      Einimo +200, thoughts scientist

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      • MMA_scientist
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2009
        • 9857

        Originally posted by Thewisemann
        Einimo +200, thoughts scientist
        Pass. He hasn't fought in 5 years and hasn't competed in bjj (as far as I know) in 8 years. The bet to make on that fight is that it doesn't go the distance. I have no idea what Einemo is going to look like... he could be a beast or he could just get his head taken off. My guess is he gasses out in round 2 and gets KOd.

        I think he has the potential to beat just about any heavyweight just based on his ADCC win alone, but without having seen him fight, it is pure guesswork. If he was fighting someone less imposing physically, I would consider it, but Herman is a big experienced guy that packs a lot of power.
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        • Thewisemann
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 1989

          OK, ill pass.

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          • poopoo333
            MMA *********
            • Jan 2010
            • 18302

            I think Maia is going to win. Munoz will probably even get out struck here, I am not sure if he is going to be throwing those huge shots like he usually does since he will leave himself open and will more than likely want to avoid the clinch. I doubt Munoz will shoot, and I think it's probably obvious that Munoz will want to "sprawl and brawl". Munoz didn't show the best TDD against Simpson either and put himself in some bad positions against Grove, Simpson, and Okami. I think in the clinch Maia will have the advantage and will get Munoz down and do his thing.

            Any thoughts?

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            • Ludo
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2010
              • 4931

              Originally posted by poopoo333
              I think Maia is going to win. Munoz will probably even get out struck here, I am not sure if he is going to be throwing those huge shots like he usually does since he will leave himself open and will more than likely want to avoid the clinch. I doubt Munoz will shoot, and I think it's probably obvious that Munoz will want to "sprawl and brawl". Munoz didn't show the best TDD against Simpson either and put himself in some bad positions against Grove, Simpson, and Okami. I think in the clinch Maia will have the advantage and will get Munoz down and do his thing.

              Any thoughts?
              I think Maia is the all around better fighter as far as technical skill goes. The only thing that worries Me is the fact that Munoz is super strong.
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              • SPX
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 23875

                Originally posted by LudoCain
                The only thing that worries Me is the fact that Munoz is super strong.
                What makes you think so? Hamill shrugged him off with ease.
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                • poopoo333
                  MMA *********
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 18302

                  I think K Sos will beat Pokrajac pretty easily. K Sos will bring the fight down and get on top where he will have the advantage. Vladdy and Bonnar were both able to neutralize and dominate him down there.

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                  • Vandelay
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 1934

                    Is everyone just assuming that Maia has a huge grappling advantage and will automatically tap munoz withing a minute or two of being on the ground? Lets not forget that Munoz is training with the nogs and jacare. I'm sure he's improved on the ground in the last 2 years and can probably survive if he's on top and win a decision that way.

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                    • SPX
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 23875

                      I don't know how much he's improved over the last several months, but I remember Grove came very close to locking up a choke on him. And if Kendall Grove can do it, Demian Maia can definitely do it.
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                      • Svino
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 3873

                        Originally posted by Vandelay
                        Is everyone just assuming that Maia has a huge grappling advantage and will automatically tap munoz withing a minute or two of being on the ground? Lets not forget that Munoz is training with the nogs and jacare. I'm sure he's improved on the ground in the last 2 years and can probably survive if he's on top and win a decision that way.
                        I could see the fight ending up a little more like Maia / Miranda, or Souza / Villasenor with Maia winning a control-based grappling match w/o a sub. But yeah, I do think Munoz's likely to get swept or submitted if he's on top.

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                        • MMA_scientist
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 9857

                          Originally posted by Vandelay
                          Is everyone just assuming that Maia has a huge grappling advantage and will automatically tap munoz withing a minute or two of being on the ground? Lets not forget that Munoz is training with the nogs and jacare. I'm sure he's improved on the ground in the last 2 years and can probably survive if he's on top and win a decision that way.
                          I think you are vastly underestimating Maia's grappling chops as well as the skill difference between Maia and Munoz (or even Nog) on the mat. I am not saying he will tap Munoz, in fact, I don't think he will. But the odds of Munoz being able to just hang out in Maia's guard for 15 minutes are very slim. There is more to Maia's game than guard submissions. Coming in with gnp gameplan is a surefire way to lose against a top grappler. Munoz has to win on his feet, and maybe mix in a few takedowns with no extended time on the mat. I think Maia would lock up a triangle within 2 minutes if he didn't get a sweep first. Maia has been gassing in round 3 since he got on the roids, so Munoz may be able to top control him in round 3, but I still doubt it. That said, Munoz had a good chance in this fight IMO because Maia comes in and engages. He will probably walk straight forward the entire time like he always does. Munoz hits like a truck and could definitely catch him.
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                          • Mr. IWS
                            215 Hustler
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 98691

                            Originally posted by MMA_scientist
                            Maia has been gassing in round 3 since he got on the roids,
                            This cracked me up.

                            But I do agree, Maia is fuckin nasty on the ground.
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                            • Luke
                              10 year vet
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 30060

                              Originally posted by Vandelay
                              Lets not forget that Munoz is training with the nogs and jacare. I'm sure he's improved on the ground in the last 2 years and can probably survive if he's on top and win a decision that way.
                              That idea worked out real well in the Okami fight huh?
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                              • Luke
                                10 year vet
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 30060

                                More lines out

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