BJ Penn Vs Nick Diaz - UFC 137

[SPX]

Well . . . welcome, MMABuddha.

Thanks for that write-up.

And I agree with you. I was hoping to get Jorgensen at -300 or better. I won't take him at his current line.

[MMA_scientist]

I don't think Curran has a clear path to victory. I expect Scotty to force a standup fight and shoot a few takedowns near the end of the round to win a decision. Curran has won a couple of fights against no-names, but the fact that he has gone to a decision in all of those fights doesn't bode well for him here. I don't think he can win a decision unless he just surprises Jorg with massively improved wrestling.

[Luke]

GodDAMN!

Vera -450?

And here I was hoping to get him at under -200. . .

negged for even thinking about betting that bum

[Luke]

Marshall has some quality wins.

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[Ludo]

Jorgensen has always been overrated in my view, a supposed 'world class' wrestler who fell for the same kneetap a million times against Cruz. I understand Cruz is arguably the best wrestler in the division but you can tell the difference in wrestling skill between him and DJ because DJ made Cruz work for it constantly with different tries while Jorgensen couldn't figure out the kneetap to save his life.

I wouldn't overthink the kneetap thing with Cruz. He gets it at least once on everyone, he even got Faber down with it a time or two. Fact is Jorgensen wasn't ready for that title shot and Cruz mixes things up so well that the same knee tap works because of how he wades in for strikes. It's hard to react to it as opposed to a jab or a four strike combo. While Johnson may have been better against the kneetap he couldn't defend the single to save his life. I don't know that I would chalk it up so much to a great difference in wrestling skill as I would a difference in speed between Jorgensen and Johnson.

[Ludo]

That's some crazy ass shit. Marshall has some quality wins.

Like that moral victory in lasting so long against Cane.

[Vandelay]

jorgensen, vera, askren, not cc by sub, not roop by sub pays out at about even odds in case anyone was interested.

[poopoo333]

jorgensen, vera, askren, not cc by sub, not roop by sub pays out at about even odds in case anyone was interested.

That's a good one... I think I will play that

[Vandelay]

wish i woulda caught the askren opener. Hieron's chin is pretty weak, hes not really a power puncher, and i doubt he can stuff askrens takedowns enough to win a decision. Can always hedge out if jorgensen and vera win too.

[poopoo333]

wish i woulda caught the askren opener. Hieron's chin is pretty weak, hes not really a power puncher, and i doubt he can stuff askrens takedowns enough to win a decision. Can always hedge out if jorgensen and vera win too.

Yeah, Askren is the riskiest one in that parlay...but I still like it.

[Ludo]

I'm actually tempted to take Heiron at those odds. But this is the wrong thread for that.

[SPX]

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Like that moral victory in lasting so long against Cane.

How about Jason Brilz?

[Ludo]

How about Jason Brilz?

Aside from almost pulling it off against Minotoro what has Jason Brilz ever done in his entire career worth mentioning? Literally half of his opponents to date have been Wikipedia red names.

[edman5555]

wrong thread but Heiron has a good shot against Askren. Line is wayy off.

[SPX]

Aside from almost pulling it off against Minotoro what has Jason Brilz ever done in his entire career worth mentioning? Literally half of his opponents to date have been Wikipedia red names.

Well be beat Tim Boetsch. I hope we can at least agree that that is "worth mentioning" even if Boetsch isn't a top fighter.

Marshall also beat Vinny Magahlaes, which I don't consider to be a GREAT win, but still noteworthy.