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  • MMA_scientist
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    • Nov 2009
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    Re: UFC on Versus 2 odds

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    • Luke
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      • Oct 2006
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      Re: UFC on Versus 2 odds

      Originally posted by SPX
      Originally posted by Luke
      black jack is easy 2,3,4,5 subrtact -1 from the count 6,7,8 dont add anything .9 ,10, J,Q ,K A add +1 . When the count is over a certain number (cant remember the exact number) bet more, if not bet one unit.
      Yeah, you see, that's the simple math. I can understand that.

      But when you go deep with it and try to understand the theory, it just becomes gibberish. Exhibit A. . .


      You dont need a complex counting system giving each card a number value to win at BJ . The simple count I gave you will work fine. I counted cards at Casino Windsor from the time I was 19-22. Its hard enough to keep the count of the simple system . Counting cards is very stressful . I quit doing it when I got into sports betting
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      • Luke
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        • Oct 2006
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        Re: UFC on Versus 2 odds

        Originally posted by MMA_scientist
        ^^ see now I don't know if you are messing with us. If Zak posted that, he would have purposely changed the Author to Peter Griffin in an obscure Family Guy reference... but since you posted, I am going to assume, that is the guy's name.



        Damn it, I don't know who to trust anymore.

        LOL
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        • Svino
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          • Mar 2010
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          Re: UFC on Versus 2 odds

          Originally posted by Luke
          You dont need a complex counting system giving each card a number value to win at BJ . The simple count I gave you will work fine. I counted cards at Casino Windsor from the time I was 19-22
          How did that work logistically? I mean, I thought the casinos watched for card counters and kicked them out.

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          • SPX
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 23875

            Re: UFC on Versus 2 odds

            Originally posted by Luke
            You dont need a complex counting system giving each card a number value to win at BJ . The simple count I gave you will work fine. I counted cards at Casino Windsor from the time I was 19-22. Its hard enough to keep the count of the simple system . Counting cards is very stressful . I quit doing it when I got into sports betting
            I'm not saying you need anything. You obviously don't have to understand the math of gambling to be good and successful at gambling. It's like a computer. You don't have to understand the technical details of electronics, programming languages, etc. to use a computer, play games, get on the Internet etc.

            Likewise, you can learn a counting system and beat blackjack. But there's a difference between that and really understanding the mathematical complexities of the game.
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            • SPX
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 23875

              Re: UFC on Versus 2 odds

              Originally posted by Svino
              How did that work logistically? I mean, I thought the casinos watched for card counters and kicked them out.
              Not sure how Luke did it, but I know that most books that deal with the subject have some information on camouflaging. There's kind of a whole art to it.

              It's also worth nothing that in Atlantic City, the casinos can't kick you out, but they do have other countermeasures that they can employ.
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              • SPX
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                • Aug 2009
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                Re: UFC on Versus 2 odds

                Originally posted by MMA_scientist
                ^^ see now I don't know if you are messing with us. If Zak posted that, he would have purposely changed the Author to Peter Griffin in an obscure Family Guy reference... but since you posted, I am going to assume, that is the guy's name.
                It's really dude's name. . .
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                • MMA_scientist
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 9857

                  Re: UFC on Versus 2 odds

                  Svino, it is really hard to beat blackjack anymore because there are very few 1 and 2 deck games. And the casinos that do offer 1 and 2 deck don't penetrate deep enough into the deck... so they pretty much let you try to count at low stakes IME. They don't start paying attention until you are playing fairly high stakes. Because even if you can count, you still can't beat it most likely.

                  Also, like Luke mentioned, it is a hell of alot of work. It is much more work that just getting a job.
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                  • Luke
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                    • Oct 2006
                    • 30060

                    Re: UFC on Versus 2 odds

                    Originally posted by Svino
                    How did that work logistically? I mean, I thought the casinos watched for card counters and kicked them out.

                    Not once in 3 years did anyone say a word to me. I always sit at the beginning of the table so my head wouldnt be rotating from left to right every hand .I practiced at home alot so it wouldnt be so obv and barely moved my eyes when I counted.

                    I think it had more to do with Casino Windsor being a small local casino than anything . The dealers there chatted with the players alot so I dont even think they were looking for counters. Plus I wasnt trying to win a million dollars . I'd go up there with a goal to win 500 dollars per trip
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                    • SPX
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                      • Aug 2009
                      • 23875

                      Re: UFC on Versus 2 odds

                      Originally posted by MMA_scientist
                      Svino, it is really hard to beat blackjack anymore because there are very few 1 and 2 deck games.
                      It is difficult to beat, but you don't have to have a single or doubledeck game to do it. In fact, the 6-deck is considered the "bread and butter" of the modern counter, and is certainly beatable. But it does take work and, in order to win significant money, a big bankroll because if you're only looking at a 1% or 2% advantage (as is standard) then it would obviously take relatively large average bets to really make some decent money.
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                      • Luke
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                        • Oct 2006
                        • 30060

                        Re: UFC on Versus 2 odds

                        Originally posted by MMA_scientist
                        ... so they pretty much let you try to count at low stakes IME. They don't start paying attention until you are playing fairly high stakes. Because even if you can count, you still can't beat it most likely.
                        what MMAscientist said .I wasnt playing stakes high enough to draw any attention




                        Also, like Luke mentioned, it is a hell of alot of work. It is much more work that just getting a job.

                        Its very stressful thats why I quit doing it .Sportsbetting is WAAYYYY less stressful
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                        • MMA_scientist
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                          • Nov 2009
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                          Re: UFC on Versus 2 odds

                          Originally posted by Luke
                          Its very stressful thats why I quit doing it .Sportsbetting is WAAYYYY less stressful
                          its also less time consuming and you can do it from your home. And IMO its easier to beat.
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                          • Luke
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                            • Oct 2006
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                            Re: UFC on Versus 2 odds

                            Originally posted by MMA_scientist
                            its also less time consuming and you can do it from your home. And IMO its easier to beat.

                            Without a doubt its easier to beat and takes less time .
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                            • SPX
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
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                              Re: UFC on Versus 2 odds

                              I'm off to bust a serious research project on Okami/Munoz.

                              I'll be back in a bit to tell ya'll who the winner will be.
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                              • Luke
                                10 year vet
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 30060

                                Re: UFC on Versus 2 odds

                                Originally posted by SPX
                                I'm off to bust a serious research project on Okami/Munoz.

                                I'll be back in a bit to tell ya'll who the winner will be.

                                I already did that last night . I think I watched 10 of their fights
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