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  • MMA_scientist
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 9857

    Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

    I would really like to see Shields/Fitch. I think that would be really interesting. My guess is that Fitch would beat him, but Shields was able to handle Askren's wrestling pretty well. And apparently Shields beat Fitch in a grappling match. But Fitch is a way better striker, and Shields is not submission machine.
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    • Svino
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2010
      • 3873

      Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

      Originally posted by Luke
      ZY you may now pick out my new avatar.
      Your new avatar is going to be: "Bandwidth exceeded - Photobucket".

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      • zY|
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 8385

        Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

        Originally posted by MMA_scientist
        I would really like to see Shields/Fitch. I think that would be really interesting. My guess is that Fitch would beat him, but Shields was able to handle Askren's wrestling pretty well. And apparently Shields beat Fitch in a grappling match. But Fitch is a way better striker, and Shields is not submission machine.
        I think that fight happens next. It's a great fight, but I'd love 5 rounds of it, as dreadful as it might be.
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        • Svino
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2010
          • 3873

          Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

          Originally posted by MMA_scientist
          I would really like to see Shields/Fitch. I think that would be really interesting. My guess is that Fitch would beat him, but Shields was able to handle Askren's wrestling pretty well. And apparently Shields beat Fitch in a grappling match. But Fitch is a way better striker, and Shields is not submission machine.
          I agree. Shields isn't going to beat guys he cant outwrestle. GSP, Koscheck, and Fitch, I think would all beat him.

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          • Ludo
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2010
            • 4931

            Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

            How was he not going to beat Jacare? I would favor Jacare in that matchup as well but it isn't like Shields can't win that fight the same way Jacare can. It would come down to who has the better positioning and it would be an extremely technical fight. I agree he needs to go back up to 185 because as Rogan mentioned before the fight he spent so much time up at 185 he put on alot more muscle to stay effective and size appropriate. Kampmann definitely came close to winning that fight, had he forced Jake to stand in the third round I think he could have landed the knee or two more he needed to put Shields away. Holy fuck though Shields is a positioning wiz. He was passing into mount at will in there.

            Also, that grappling match between Fitch and Shields happened three years ago. I think if they fought right now Fitch would win via top control positioning because Shields isn't exactly a bottom game guy. He would likely sweep and end up on top a few times himself but I just don't see him subbing Fitch if he couldn't sub Kampmann. I'm not saying Kampmanns ground game isn't officially getting the credit it's deserved for a long time, but Fitch has never been easy to sub(seeing as it's only ever happened once).
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            • zY|
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 8385

              Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez



              Brock v Cain, if you need a rewatch
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              • poopoo333
                MMA *********
                • Jan 2010
                • 18302

                Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

                ^^Thanks ZY


                Well I thought I was just being dumb when I thought to myself Lawlor started using steroids during the fight, but I saw this:

                http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/did-la ... d-1401331/

                So my perception isn't THAT bad is it?!

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                • Svino
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 3873

                  Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

                  So... as a fan of Nogs, dare I hope that Cain's dominant striking performance over Lesnar (and Mir's over Cro Cop) means that Zombie-Nog isn't necessarily as zombified as I feared? Or am I only setting myself up for disappointment?

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                  • Mr. IWS
                    215 Hustler
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 98806

                    Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

                    Originally posted by Luke
                    MMAscientisit ,poopoo ,SBJJ ,Svino

                    Great job tonight guys



                    LOL j/k nice job boys.
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                    • zY|
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 8385

                      Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

                      FightMetric reports out

                      Cain/Brock

                      http://blog.fightmetric.com/2010/10/vel ... stats.html

                      Shields/Kampmann (scored a draw)

                      http://blog.fightmetric.com/2010/10/she ... eport.html
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                      • Mr. IWS
                        215 Hustler
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 98806

                        Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

                        Apparently the Undertaker and Brock got into it a lil bit at the event. Helwani is posting something soon.

                        This shit keeps getting funnier.
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                        • Mr. IWS
                          215 Hustler
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 98806

                          Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

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                          • Mr. IWS
                            215 Hustler
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 98806

                            Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

                            [youtube:2e1p04j3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjHtxPew5Os[/youtube:2e1p04j3]
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                            • Mr. IWS
                              215 Hustler
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 98806

                              Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

                              Dam, Undertaker took what was left of his heart. LOL
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                              • zY|
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 8385

                                Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

                                Originally posted by IWS Zak
                                Dam, Undertaker took what was left of his heart. LOL
                                Yep just came in to post that video. Talk about overhyped.

                                "you wanna do it?" and Brock glares at him. I stayed up for that?
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