UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

I think Barboza should win. He looks pretty nasty, but he is new and Lullo has mostly sub wins. I woulnd't touch that at -500. I am really suprised he is that high. He is hyped up a lot, but he has only been training mma for 1.5 years or so.

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

Yeah these lines kinda stink. Stink like shit.

[MMA_scientist]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

^^ Yeah, that was my reason for thinking I could get a good deal on Elkins/Lullo. If Lullo even wrestled in high school I would probably bet him... but as it stands, he is going to lose and the line on Barbosa is ridiculous.

[MMA_scientist]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

Machida down to -230, I went ahead and followed you turds for 2.3u.

Don't make me regret this.

[poopoo333]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

Machida down to -230, I went ahead and followed you turds for 2.3u.

Don't make me regret this.

We avoided the IWS curse on Saturday with PAc by decision

[poopoo333]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/TJ-OBrien-22127

Kelly=loses to grapplers

O Brien=grappler

From an MMA Junkie comment:

I know this guy personally. He's a beast inside and outside of the cage. He lifts very heavy in the gym and has cardio for days. He does have a HUGE weight cut, he looks near death every time weigh-ins come. His extensive reach gives him a huge advantage and when you get hit, you go straight for the take down. So it's a "pick-your-poison" type of scenario with him.

I have high hopes for him and can't wait to see him in a bigger show. He's a lot like Cole Miller/Dustin Hazelett and both of those guys always have exciting fights.

WAR SPIDER O'Brien!


Paul Kelly is 5'9 and O Brien is like 6'2 or 6'3

[MMA_scientist]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

^^ all of his fights have ended with a submission, win or lose. That's kind of amazing.

I don't put a lot of stock in what guy's who train with fighters think personally, just because you don't know what kind of insight or experience the guy has. All I know is that O'Brien has fought at 145 and that he was eliminated in the prelims on TUF 12. He is the guy that got flattened by Marc Stevens (he should have just guillotined him, it seems to work for everyone else).

Still, it certainly looks like he knows how to get a fight to the ground.

[SPX]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

Damn, lots of fast line movement.

Griffin's line is getting close to bettable. Hallman's line got a lot less appetizing.

[sbjj]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

At what point do you guys see Griffin as bettable?

[poopoo333]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

At what point do you guys see Griffin as bettable?

Now.

[SPX]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

At what point do you guys see Griffin as bettable?

Bodog just opened him at -185. I need to re-watch some Lentz fights but I imagine Griffin wins 70% of the time, so anything better than -233 should be worth a bet.

[poopoo333]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

wtf @ all the money coming in on Hallman I wanted him @+195 like he opened at

[poopoo333]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

Thoughts on Foster/Brown?

[SPX]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

wtf @ all the money coming in on Hallman I wanted him @+195 like he opened at

Yeah, that shit dropped FAST. Within like 5 minutes it was already at +155. It is no longer a tempting line at all. The only hope is if some big money comes in on Karo.

[sbjj]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

I am not sure i could muster the courage to bet Karo at even slight dog odds. Just to many questions. At 80% Karo beats Hallman, but Karo might be at 50%.