UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

[MMA_scientist]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

Serra is tailor made to lose to Hughes. He doesn't have great takedown defense and not a submission threat. And he still almost lost. A lot of people think he did lose. That fight and especially the Renzo fight show me how far Hughes' takedowns have fallen. He actually got stuffed several times by a 43 year old bjj guy that hadn't fought in like 6 years.

[SPX]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

Damn, ya'll are almost making me jump on BJ.

[poopoo333]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

"I think what keeps me motivated is I don't want to go in the bar and drink. There's not much to do in Hilo. There's nothing to do. I'd way rather be training to fight in the Octagon. I think once you've been where me, Lyoto Machida, Quinton "Rampage" Jackson and Matt Hughes have been, a lot of other stuff, it just seems boring. This is the only thing that keeps me feeling like I have something to live for. As soon as Dana gave me that text, he said, you want to take a fight with Matt Hughes, I got chicken skin all over my body and I was like, I got to a reason to live for a couple more months. I think fighters are just used to that adrenaline."

-BJ

[MMA_scientist]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

BJ has nothing to do in the tropical paradise that we all dream of visiting and pay a month's pay to visit for 4 days

Hilo>Hillsboro, IL

[poopoo333]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

Yeah BJ has nothing to do, yet he has a newborn child lol.


Seriously though...for some reason I am like 1000000000% confident in Machida. Like..more confident then I was in Couture beating Toney. Even when Rampage was looking decent I thought Machida would kill him. Now Rampage is just fighting for a paycheck, and has been basically acting like he just wants to get this fight over with.

[SPX]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

Yeah, I've got 2.5u on Machida and I'm thinking of pushing that to 5u.

I've been trying lately to find one good 5u bet on each card. The first was Faber. Then Amir. Now I'm thinking Machida.

[poopoo333]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

Yeah, I've got 2.5u on Machida and I'm thinking of pushing that to 5u.

I've been trying lately to find one good 5u bet on each card. The first was Faber. Then Amir. Now I'm thinking Machida.

I don't like trying to influence people to make big bets just in case....but I really think Machida is the best play on the card. I am thinking about pulling a SBJJ and putting a shitload on Machida like he did on Cain. (Too bad Machida is a favorite)

Hopefully the countdown show tonight makes it look like Rampage is motivated and training as hard as ever so money comes in on Rampage.

[Vandelay]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

damn. If BJ lived in the northeast he might kill himself due to boredom and weather. His idea of bored is probably just swimming, eating, relaxing in the sun, and surfing or whatever else they do out there.

Machida should do well against rampage. Rampage has power in both hands but he doesnt set up his punches well and if his opponent doesnt stand in the pocket and trade for long periods of time he struggles. Rampages best punches often come at the end of combos or as his opponent is leaving the pocket. Too bad his timing has been off terribly in his past couple fights and machida mixes everything up (trips, kicks, punches, knees, etc.) real well. One other note to look at is rampage denying a title fight against machida in favor of a fued with rashad on tuf even though he had previously stated his disdain of tuf and long breaks between fights.

[poopoo333]

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So is anybody here going to watch the countdown at 11 (EST)? We can see how Rampage and BJ are more motivated then ever.

[Vandelay]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

Can we take guesses on what angles we will try to be convinced on. My guesses are BJ Penn is hungrier than ever to try and earn another shot at his rival, GSP. Rampage needed one fight to shake off the cobwebs and has switched up his training camp so now he should revert to the "old" rampage. Machida had his first taste of defeat ever, to current champ Mauricio "shogun" Rua and is eager to get his title back and is looking to make an example of rampage. And finally, hughes cutting his hunting trip short...

[poopoo333]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

Can we take guesses on what angles we will try to be convinced on. My guesses are BJ Penn is hungrier than ever to try and earn another shot at his rival, GSP. Rampage needed one fight to shake off the cobwebs and has switched up his training camp so now he should revert to the "old" rampage. Machida had his first taste of defeat ever, to current champ Mauricio "shogun" Rua and is eager to get his title back and is looking to make an example of rampage. And finally, hughes cutting his hunting trip short...

I have:

-BJ Penn loves to fight and he is just doing what he loves, and he has always wanted to fight Hughes again
-Hughes thinks this is a very interesting fight.
-Rampage is going to call Machida boring and say he just runs away but he is gonna knock his ass out anyways.
-Machida talks about how he as a karate master will come back stronger as ever and he will chug a gallon of urine with his Dad on TV

[sbjj]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

Yeah, I've got 2.5u on Machida and I'm thinking of pushing that to 5u.

I've been trying lately to find one good 5u bet on each card. The first was Faber. Then Amir. Now I'm thinking Machida.

I don't like trying to influence people to make big bets just in case....but I really think Machida is the best play on the card. I am thinking about pulling a SBJJ and putting a shitload on Machida like he did on Cain. (Too bad Machida is a favorite)

Hopefully the countdown show tonight makes it look like Rampage is motivated and training as hard as ever so money comes in on Rampage.

I already have 5 units on BJ(at opening price). And 6 units on Machida to win 2.5. I also have 2.5 units on a parlay with the both of them. The price is the only thing that stops me from unloading on Machida. I always thought he was a terrible matchup for Rampage.

[SPX]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

Yeah, but going back to our previous conversation, a unit for you is like .25% of your bankroll.

5u for me is 10%.

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

Serra is a midget.

Get the fuck out of here.

Hahahaaha. I love that little italian, but he is a small welterweight.

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

damn. If BJ lived in the northeast he might kill himself due to boredom and weather. His idea of bored is probably just swimming, eating, relaxing in the sun, and surfing or whatever else they do out there.

Machida should do well against rampage. Rampage has power in both hands but he doesnt set up his punches well and if his opponent doesnt stand in the pocket and trade for long periods of time he struggles. Rampages best punches often come at the end of combos or as his opponent is leaving the pocket. Too bad his timing has been off terribly in his past couple fights and machida mixes everything up (trips, kicks, punches, knees, etc.) real well. One other note to look at is rampage denying a title fight against machida in favor of a fued with rashad on tuf even though he had previously stated his disdain of tuf and long breaks between fights.

How do you see Machida winning? Decision? Tko? Sub?