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  • edman5555
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 6628

    McKenzie seems like a cool dude but I don't think he wins.
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    • edman5555
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 6628

      What is everyones opinion on Yves/McKenzie?
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      • poopoo333
        MMA *********
        • Jan 2010
        • 18302

        Originally posted by edman5555
        What is everyones opinion on Yves/McKenzie?
        Haven't even looked at it. But I am guessing Yves should win.

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        • MMA_scientist
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2009
          • 9857

          ^ seconded. Yves should win. McKenzie is a one trick pony, I doubt Yves lets him slap that thing on him. He probably won't even get him down... I am actually considering Yves myself now.

          Yves stuffed all of Gunderson's shots in his last fight. He actually made him pay several times for it with knees as well. Gunderson has a good shot, but he is built nothing like Cody. McKenzie seems to find a way to drape his long frame over guys... but I just think Yves is going to have way too much for him.

          The only reason I haven't bet it is that Cody is a freak with that choke. I have looked at it, and tried to do it. It is actually called a "prayer choke" and has been around a long time. Nate Diaz used a similar thing to put Davis to sleep. It seems to work for guys with long skinny arms and concave chests (which explains why I can't do it). But Lyle Beerbohm has been hitting it too, and he is the opposite frame. Beerbohm and McKenzie train together. They must practice the bejesus out of that thing and it is working for them. So I am little nervous about it.

          Still, I am pretty confident that Yves can keep it standing where he has a massive edge. He has a grappling edge too, as long as he can keep Cody off his neck, which I think he will. I am sure Yces has been doing nothing but guillotine defense.
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          2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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          • poopoo333
            MMA *********
            • Jan 2010
            • 18302

            Oh and I am going to be pissed if Mike Brown loses. Just saying. That will ruin everything for the night.

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            • SPX
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 23875

              Originally posted by poopoo333
              Oh and I am going to be pissed if Mike Brown loses. Just saying. That will ruin everything for the night.
              Word. That would ruin my LIFE.

              I'm counting on Brownie to help pull me out of this early hole I've dug for myself. Dunham, too.
              I heart cock

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              • Ludo
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2010
                • 4931

                Yves is up there in his career but he should still have the kind of striking to give Cody all kinds of problems(alot like Nam Phan did). He has grappling enough to keep from getting taken down and thus he should be able to avoid that guillotine. I don't see how McKenzie wins this fight other than that sub he likes so much. Yves is still a VERY strong dude(I'm sure some of you remember the powerbomb he did on that guy who was shooting on him at Bellator).
                2013: +8.24u(increased unit size on 5/19)
                Favorites: 20-6 + 6.13u
                Underdogs: 10-19 -2.51u
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                2012: +20.311u

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                • sbjj
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 1418

                  Originally Posted by sbjj
                  Not mad at all. Do not like one over the other. Just have it on good word that Barry has improved his offensive and defensive wrestling substantially. Just trying to help out the guys that looked real close to betting beltran.

                  Must concede though. I never thought Barry's wrestling was all that bad...just though he made a stupid mistake in the hague fight. To be completely honest, that is the only time his DEFENSIVE grappling has looked bad. i discount the crocop fight entirely because I just do not expect a guy with a badly broken hand and broken foot to win a fight.



                  Originally posted by edman5555
                  What word is that? I'm not disagreeing with you, I have a bet on Barry.
                  That quote was to a different person, Zak I believe.

                  Anyways, some of us seem to have a disagreemant on this fight. Cool enough. Just saw a couple of dudes in here getting close to pulling the trigger on Beltran. And the word I got from someone in Barry's camp( only for a couple of weeks) is that would be a bad idea. and it is someone who would not lie to me. the same guy told me that Dan henderson had a horrible cut when he fought Anderson Silva. He would not hype anyone to me because he is on their payroll.

                  The pics someone mentioned earlier are legit. Barry is ripped.

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                  • poopoo333
                    MMA *********
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 18302

                    Any more examples of having inside information? Not saying you are lying or whatever, I would just like to see examples and their outcomes on the fights. What's your opinion on Dunham/Guillard?

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                    • sbjj
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 1418

                      Very rare that i get what you would consider inside info. from this guy. but he is constantly at certain and camps and knows several fighters on a personal level. The Henderson info. was not him being part of his camp, but from just talking to him. all the info. did for me was stop me from betting Dan, which was my plan.

                      Scientist, i really do not understand where you get some of your rhetoric. I have never really boasted in here. yes, I do this for a living, but i have never bragged about getting rich from it...because i have not. i do not live in a big house, i do not drive a sportscar(I freakin drive a corrola). For the most part, I just win enough to live a decent life with my wife and child. And this has all been stated before. funny that to you that sounds like being cocky or bragging. there are dudes in here that I am sure make as much, if not more than me at their job. And that is fine, more power to them. i am not jealous of that. I'm pretty sure i have never called myself a professional. Just seems like something you like to bring up to rally the troops.

                      Go back and read my past posts about all this. Real far from bragging dude.

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                      • sbjj
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 1418

                        Originally posted by poopoo333
                        Any more examples of having inside information? Not saying you are lying or whatever, I would just like to see examples and their outcomes on the fights. What's your opinion on Dunham/Guillard?
                        If I was to play it. i would play Guillard. i just think he holds the striking edge. And might come in with a gameplan and the gamplan IMO could very well work. Dunham has been outstruck by lesser strikers than Guillard, but his grit and determination got him through. But he has showed that he is hittable, and guillard IMO could make it real close.

                        But i am not going to bet that fight. barry will more than likely be my only bet.

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                        • cheickkongo24
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 9

                          my friends always tell me dont bet on these small events the underdogs win two much is that true?

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                          • Ludo
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 4931

                            Not really, Cheick. I think the stats have dogs and favorites winning fairly close to even all around.
                            2013: +8.24u(increased unit size on 5/19)
                            Favorites: 20-6 + 6.13u
                            Underdogs: 10-19 -2.51u
                            Ludo's Locks Parlay Project: +1.4u

                            2012: +20.311u

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                            • Mr. IWS
                              215 Hustler
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 98674

                              Originally posted by poopoo333
                              Are you sure your not mixing up the Hague/Tucshererererereererer decision with the Hague/Beltran decision? Because the scorecards on Hague/Beltran were 30-27s and 30-26s, and I don't remember thinking that decision sucked. But I do remember thinking Hague/Tucsherererereerer was a shitty decision, and I had a bet on Tucsherererererererere
                              You spelled Tucksure wrong.

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                              • poopoo333
                                MMA *********
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 18302

                                Originally posted by cheickkongo24
                                my friends always tell me dont bet on these small events the underdogs win two much is that true?
                                Thanks for being a dumbass and grabbing the shorts in the Browne fight. You would have won that fight and won all of us money if you hadn't been retarded

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