2011 Off topic thread(basketball,movies,etc whatever)

[poopoo333]

I dont see how that is possible. If you eat at a caloric deficit, you will lose weight.

reeped. People just suck some major dick at counting calories and overestimate the fuck out of their portion sizes. Actual obese people that eat in a caloric deficit drop a shit ton of weight FAST (lots of water weight at first because their glycogen levels are gonna be way down in the sudden change of food). Just look at the biggest loser (I know they do a vigorous exercise program too), but one guy lost 32 lbs in ONE week....and yes I know not much of that was actual fat, but it's just a point I am making. He is probably in a huge deficit though. When you are 400+ lbs your maintenance calories are 4000+, and they probably dropped him to 1500-2000 immediately.

[poopoo333]

http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm

[MMA_scientist]

True, the larger you are (and the more muscle you have) the more you burn just by existing. But I think it is pretty well established that if you go into too much of a deficit, your body will go into "starvation mode" and the base metabolic rate will go way down. Also, every pound you drop, your body uses fewer and fewer calories at rest (unless you are also adding muscle)...

But yeah, for most people... it is going to work.

[poopoo333]

True, the larger you are (and the more muscle you have) the more you burn just by existing. But I think it is pretty well established that if you go into too much of a deficit, your body will go into "starvation mode" and the base metabolic rate will go way down. Also, every pound you drop, your body uses fewer and fewer calories at rest (unless you are also adding muscle)...

Yeah too much of a deficit too quickly=you are probably going to hit a wall after a month or so

[Mr. IWS]

True, the larger you are (and the more muscle you have) the more you burn just by existing. But I think it is pretty well established that if you go into too much of a deficit, your body will go into "starvation mode" and the base metabolic rate will go way down. Also, every pound you drop, your body uses fewer and fewer calories at rest (unless you are also adding muscle)...

But yeah, for most people... it is going to work.

Create a caloric deficit
Mix in a cheat meal once a week
do some cardio mixing in a HIIT session once or twice a week
lift weights
eat protein
get all teh bitches

seems legit no?

[MMA_scientist]

seems legit no?

yes.

How fat are you now?

[SPX]

That's not a value meal. I meant if you were trying to eat a lot of calories though...

Sure it is. All I'm doing is subbing the Medium fry for a Cheeseburger in the 6 pc meal. And for me, that's an attempt to eat a lot of calories.

a bacon angus burger is 800 cals, a large fry is 500 cals, and 32 oz coke is 310 cals... so you are 1600 cals for just that meal, which I could easily eat. And mcDonalds is not as bad as some of the other chains. Now, I wouldn't eat that... but I could.

That's a fuckload of food. I can't eat that much. I'd be full halfway through.

I had a salad for lunch which was probably 500 cals, maybe 600.

Well then that's a crazy fucking salad with all kinds of chicken and bacon and cheese and dressing.

[poopoo333]

Create a caloric deficit
Mix in a cheat meal once a week
do some cardio mixing in a HIIT session once or twice a week
lift weights
eat protein
get all teh bitches

seems legit no?

Basically. I think cardio is key. When I am dieting my results suck when I am not sticking to my cardio. I think AM cardio is the best too fwiw.

[poopoo333]

I think the dressing packets they give you are full of cals. A lot of delusional people like to think a salad with dressing is worse for you than a big mac. I've heard this from a lot of people IRL and it makes me rageeee

[Mr. IWS]

yes.

How fat are you now?

Im down about 60lbs. hovering around 300. I havent been cutting anymore weight, just out of lazyness, but I still lift with my son 3x a week. Zero cardio right now though.

My Diet is super clean from the time I wake up until around 6pm, then I binge eat . I get on average about 750-800 cals during the work day in 4 small meals, after that, I go in for the kill when I get home.

When I am actually working out hard, and dieting 7 days a week, I like to eat 3 eggs and 4 strips of bacon for breakfast. 370 calories. If I add a banana or something like that, it ends up around 500 cal.

[Mr. IWS]

Basically. I think cardio is key. When I am dieting my results suck when I am not sticking to my cardio. I think AM cardio is the best too fwiw.

I know that is super controversial, but in my experience, AM Cardio on an empty stomach gave me better results, so I agree with you.

[poopoo333]

I know that is super controversial, but in my experience, AM Cardio on an empty stomach gave me better results, so I agree with you.

Yeah, it just makes sense to me too. There is a reason why a huge percentile of the top BBers do it. Best times are AM or PWO. Any other time is OK imo, but it won't be nearly as good as the other two I just mentioned

[MMA_scientist]

Sure it is. All I'm doing is subbing the Medium fry for a Cheeseburger in the 6 pc meal. And for me, that's an attempt to eat a lot of calories.

Fine, here is my value meal: water, apples and yogurt. The whole thing is 130 cals. I just subbed the apples for the fries and the yogurt for the burger and the water for the coke.

That's a fuckload of food. I can't eat that much. I'd be full halfway through.

Well, you are a smaller human than me. I could eat that no problem, and probably wash it down with some apple pies too. I am just one of those guys that is hungry pretty much all the time and can eat a lot.

Well then that's a crazy fucking salad with all kinds of chicken and bacon and cheese and dressing.

a close talker with no shell and no cheese from Moes is what it was. lettuce, beans, chicken, pico, and black olive. That's it. It comes in at 400 cals with no dressing, I had dressing, so it was about 550 ( http://moes.com/Food.php?ii=1 ) I mean, that is straight up lean chicken breast, lettuce and some veggies. Then the dressing... that's it. Not like some fried monstrosity.

[poopoo333]

^^like I said..500 cals a meal is nothing. I am starting to think SPX is a high school cheerleader

[MMA_scientist]

a homemade turney sandwich with a lsice of cheese is almost 400 cals. Add in a banana and you are 550 cals just for your sandwich and fruit. No drink, no chips... 2000 cals a day for me, I have to actively diet to hit that low of a number.