2011 Off topic thread(basketball,movies,etc whatever)

[sbjj]

Well, that really seems more like a "here" vs. "there" issue. Americans care about conditions in America.

There have been a few honor killings in the good old USA. Where was the left? They came out in full force when that abortion doctor was murdered.

Here is a good one for the left. Where are the anti war protests? Is war only bad when a Republican is in office? Bottom line, Liberals are hypocrites, but so are most republicans.

[sbjj]

That may be why I think about the issue the way that I do. I have no kids, and no desire to see child pr0n, but as I said, I'm a curious guy who will look at just about anything. My internet search history would trip alarm bells from here to Langley.

LOL! And that is what is so scary about possibly being prosecuted for what you view or read.

[Svino]

Where are the anti war protests?... Bottom line, Liberals are hypocrites, but so are most republicans.

Yeah, the anti-war protests went to the same place the budget-hawk Tea-Party-type protests went when Bush was breaking the budget with the Iraq War.

Most people can only be arsed to go and protest when they feel the government doesn't represent them. If the party holding the presidency is the one generally thought to be more on their side of the issue, it's hard to mobilize people for a protest, regardless of actual policy.

Very interestingly, I would say the current anti-Wall Street protests going on now under a Democratic president are a complete exception to this rule.

[MMA_scientist]

Very interestingly, I would say the current anti-Wall Street protests going on now under a Democratic president are a complete exception to this rule.

Except they are not protesting government policy, I don't think anyone actually knows what they are protesting... capitalism? I really don't know because I don't pay attention, do they actually have a centralized issue at all?

[sbjj]

Yeah, the anti-war protests went to the same place the budget-hawk Tea-Party-type protests went when Bush was breaking the budget with the Iraq War.

Most people can only be arsed to go and protest when they feel the government doesn't represent them. If the party holding the presidency is the one generally thought to be more on their side of the issue, it's hard to mobilize people for a protest, regardless of actual policy.

Very interestingly, I would say the current anti-Wall Street protests going on now under a Democratic president are a complete exception to this rule.

To bad the democratic president in office is the biggest Wall Street whore in history. But the left again is clueless because they are a bunch of zombies.

As for the Tea Party hawks. They originated out of the Ron Paul movement but were then hijacked by the right. That is why I am not a Republican, because they are also idiots(like I posted earlier).

[sbjj]

Except they are not protesting government policy, I don't think anyone actually knows what they are protesting... capitalism? I really don't know because I don't pay attention, do they actually have a centralized issue at all?

They have no clue what or who they are protesting. If they did, they would be in front of the White House.

http://www.breitbart.tv/i-am-the-1-wall-street-ceo-debates-occupyws/

http://www.breitbart.tv/colbert-takes-on-occupywallstreet/

http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/1217398450001/

[MMA_scientist]

lmao at that Colbert clip...

[sbjj]

lmao at that Colbert clip...

Yea, that was priceless.

[MMA_scientist]

I generally don't watch that show, but he is pretty damn funny. I have to wonder if those are real people. Ketchup is hilarious.

[sbjj]

I generally don't watch that show, but he is pretty damn funny. I have to wonder if those are real people. Ketchup is hilarious.

Dude, I am pretty sure they are real.

[MMA_scientist]

Dude, I am pretty sure they are real.

If so, I am missing out on some pretty good comedy by not visiting these protests. Protesters are hilarious.

[Svino]

Except they are not protesting government policy, I don't think anyone actually knows what they are protesting... capitalism? I really don't know because I don't pay attention, do they actually have a centralized issue at all?

Here is a decent summary with charts:

http://www.businessinsider.com/what-wall-street-protesters-are-so-angry-about-2011-10?op=1

Most generally, they're protesting the government policies that have led to the staggering and increasing split in prosperity between America's struggling middle and lower classes, and the top 1%.

Having the protest on Wall Street is the right idea. Not only does it keep the protest focused on those issues instead of being a general Lefty free-for-all, it reminds people that the wealthy business interests (via lobbying and campaign financing) are the real drivers of policy in the US.

[Svino]

See also: http://twitpic.com/6xai3z

[MMA_scientist]

^^ I see. So they are protesting nonsense and things that have already been addressed ad nauseam.

[Svino]

^^ I see. So they are protesting nonsense and things that have already been addressed ad nauseam.

Well, until the situation turns around, I'm not sure how one can say "things" have been addressed at all, much less ad nauseam.