Strikeforce Dallas June 18th

[SPX]

.....really?

Really.

I mean, are you just trolling me or do you actually believe that bullshit?

[SPX]

Why not?

You're basing he'd get beat on what? Do you think anyone else would have looked better against the back flooping Werdum?

Well JDS knocked Werdum out before he had a chance to get his back flop on. That counts for something.
JDS has proven he can go three rounds without gassing. Overeem was huffing and puffing in the post-fight interview last night.
JDS has better wins at heavyweight.

In light of these realities, what I want to know is why you feel Overeem would win, because I think you must see something in him that I'm missing. So I'm just asking.

[poopoo333]

And if you don't think speculation has something to do with rankings, then you're foolish.

.....really?

[Luke]

Why Overeem at #2?

After last night, I really feel confident that he would get beat by JDS, and very possibly Fedor, Bigfoot, and Barnett as well.

Why not?

You're basing he'd get beat on what? Do you think anyone else would have looked better against the back flooping Werdum?

[SPX]

Exactly. So what was done last night? Overeem gave a lackluster performance and proved that his striking doesn't equal insta-death for his opponents even if they stand with him and that he has cardio issues.

Who has he beat at HW? His best win by a mile is Werdum, who JDS also beat. JDS has also beaten Carwin and Nelson, and made it look easy both times.

And if you don't think speculation has something to do with rankings, then you're foolish. Why do you think every MMA site's rankings differ? Why are you asking us for our individual rankings (opinions)?

[poopoo333]

Why Overeem at #2?

After last night, I really feel confident that he would get beat by JDS, and very possibly Fedor, Bigfoot, and Barnett as well.

Rankings are not based off of speculation..they are based off of what has actually been done...so in that case I think Luke's are off.

Cain Velasquez
Junior Dos Santos
Brock Lesnar
Shane Carwin
Alistair Overeem
Frank Mir
Fabricio Werdum
Antonio Silva
Fedor Emelianenko
Josh Barnett

[SPX]

Why Overeem at #2?

After last night, I really feel confident that he would get beat by JDS, and very possibly Fedor, Bigfoot, and Barnett as well.

[Luke]

1. Cain

2. Overeem

3. JDS

4. Bigfoot Silva

5. Fedor

6. Carwin

7. Lesnar

8. Werdum

9. Barnett

10. Mir

[SPX]

I started to answer your question and then realized that there are just too many questions to really rank these guys. Cain and JDS are at the top, though.

[poopoo333]

What are your guys' top 10 HW rankings now?

[Luke]

^^^^^pathetic


I have no problem with a fighter pulling guard if he thinks that's his best chance but falling on to your back and laying there everytime you are touched isnt pulling guard

[poopoo333]

[SPX]

LOL

[Svino]

It really wasn't Overeem's fault... it is hard to have offense when someone does that. Hell, even Anderson never really hurt Leites when he did it. It doesn't work in MMA, but it pretty good for avoiding damage.

I think after the third flop in a round, the ref should signal to the opponent that stomps and headkicks on the ground are now legal.

[Luke]

^^^^^^^^^^^hahahahhahahhahahaha ....................BOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!