2012 Off topic thread(basketball,movies,etc whatever)

[SPX]

You have to remember that "lean mass" is not exclusively muscle. And really we're talking about lean mass.

Also, if in a year I got to 180 and was at the same bodyfat percentage I would consider that something of a victory. So there are levels of success here.

[poopoo333]

well he is going to drop 15 pounds of fat, so he actually needs to gain about 35 pounds of muscle. Overeem did it with horsemeat, so you know it can be done.

Yeah, and 35 fucking pounds of muscle in one year is a pretty lofty goal, even while dropping 15 lbs of fat. This is probably extremely difficult for somebody to do with "horse meat".

Overeem didn't even gain all his weight in a year with "horse meat".

Edit: not putting you down X just stating some facts

[MMA_scientist]

I know you are going to disagree with me and I'm not even gonna reply back when you do, but gaining 21 lbs while dropping 10% in body fat in 365 days is going to take some chemical enhancement.

There, I said it.

well he is going to drop 15 pounds of fat, so he actually needs to gain about 35 pounds of muscle. Overeem did it with horsemeat, so you know it can be done.

[SPX]

why don't you put it in your sig instead of that JCVD nonsense.

Maybe I will. And there is no such thing as "JCVD nonsense."

I know you are going to disagree with me and I'm not even gonna reply back when you do, but gaining 21 lbs while dropping 10% in body fat in 365 days is going to take some chemical enhancement.

There, I said it.

Only one way to find out.

And I've posted this before, but supposedly Anthony Ellis gained 35 pounds in 16 weeks while dropping his bodyfat:

[poopoo333]

I weighed myself a couple of days ago and I was at 159.7.

I haven't taken my bodyfat %, but I'd guess it's about what it was last time I measured, which was about 17%, according to my calipers.

I know you are going to disagree with me and I'm not even gonna reply back when you do, but gaining 21 lbs while dropping 10% in body fat in 365 days is going to take some chemical enhancement.

There, I said it.

[poopoo333]

Don't feel like bumping fuel thread:

Thiago Silva tests positive for Marijuana Metabolites following his UFC on FUEL TV 6 win Stanislav Nedkov. Suspended six-month + rehab.

[MMA_scientist]

You know what, goddamn it. . .

Someone write this shit down and hold me to it. And I'm being serious.

Official Proclamation Time:

Within one year of today's date, I will be 180 lbs at 10% bodyfat!

Now don't forget.

why don't you put it in your sig instead of that JCVD nonsense.

[SPX]

I weighed myself a couple of days ago and I was at 159.7.

I haven't taken my bodyfat %, but I'd guess it's about what it was last time I measured, which was about 17%, according to my calipers.

[poopoo333]

What are you at now in terms of bodyweight and body fat %?

[SPX]

You know what, goddamn it. . .

Someone write this shit down and hold me to it. And I'm being serious.

Official Proclamation Time:

Within one year of today's date, I will be 180 lbs at 10% bodyfat!

Now don't forget.

[MMA_scientist]

I haven't done it in years because I learned early on that you can't eat 1500 calories a day and expect to get bigger.

And I think 180 is quite doable. I got as high as 164 when I was in California at about 17% bodyfat.

So, you basically have to gain at least another 30-35 pounds of muscle. It can be done, obviously, just saying, you are going to have to lift some heavy stuff repeatedly. That is a complete body overhaul, just saying.

[SPX]

I haven't done it in years because I learned early on that you can't eat 1500 calories a day and expect to get bigger.

And I think 180 is quite doable. I got as high as 164 when I was in California at about 17% bodyfat.

[MMA_scientist]

Oh, that's what I was asking, I thought you said you never lifted without supps.

180? you would have to be like a hulk to achieve that IMO. You would have to be seriously developed for that shit, good luck.

[SPX]

So you have never compared lifting + supps to just lifting. So how is it that you are so sure you are getting a benefit from them? You get bigger and stronger, yes... but you put on 10 pounds of muscle in 6 weeks without even lifting in basic training. That's pretty serious adding right there.

also, [insert mandatory poke at weighing 117 pounds].

I've compared just lifting and eating normally (three meals a day, not really paying too much attention to it) with lifting and eating and taking supps and there is a definite difference. If I just started going to the gym without any regard to my eating habits then I might put on a few pounds but then my gains would stall out after two weeks or so because there's just not enough calories or protein for further gains.

In the Army I think my weight was so low when I went in that it just didn't take much to put on a few pounds. But like I said, after I hit about 126 pounds I had a really hard time getting past that. In fact, I was 18 when I went to basic training. 5 years later I remember walking into a 24 Hour Fitness and them weighing me and I was only 114 lbs.

I finally got past the 130lb mark when I was 25. And a few years after that I was in the 150s, although like I've said it hasn't been all muscle.

But ideally, I think I'd like to be about 180 @ 10% bodyfat.

[MMA_scientist]

The only time was when I was basic training for the Army and that's obviously a different kind of working out. You eat three meals a day and that's it. I think I went from about 117 to 126 pounds and stayed lean. I had a really hard time getting past that 126 lb mark when I got back, though.

I don't think supplements are magic at all, but I have to use them to get the necessary calories and protein in to keep putting on muscle.

So you have never compared lifting + supps to just lifting. So how is it that you are so sure you are getting a benefit from them? You get bigger and stronger, yes... but you put on 10 pounds of muscle in 6 weeks without even lifting in basic training. That's pretty serious adding right there.

also, [insert mandatory poke at weighing 117 pounds].