UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

Brock actually joined the UFC before Cain.

[Luke]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

Cain has a little more experience than Brock. Not that much though. Cain started in 2006, brock in 2007. Cain has 8 fights, Brock has 6.

You cant measure experience by number of fights imo.

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

I can see Cain winning this but I was hoping the line would move more towards +200 before I put a bet in. Hopefully it will, but it is not shaping up like it.

Cain's line is about where it started. It's a little better at Bodog and Bookmaker but the same everywhere else. I am hoping that the big money is coming in this week and that more of it will end up on Brock.

Some bettors were probably holding off on betting UFC 121 until this one gets out of the way. That is how I usually operate.

[Luke]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

I actually want the line to drop some. If it does I'm taking Brock

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

Cain has a little more experience than Brock. Not that much though. Cain started in 2006, brock in 2007. Cain has 8 fights, Brock has 6.

You cant measure experience by number of fights imo.

Yeah, amount of time spent training and trying to improve counts for just as much. You can hop in and out of the ring without training half as much as the guy next to you if you want.

Brocks camp is also full of wrestlers and always has been. That is a plus for him exp wise. He might have more hours in working with wrestlers than Cain.

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

I actually want the line to drop some. If it does I'm taking Brock

Heh you usually have the right side of the line with Brock. I had Carwin last time, you had Brock. This time I will probably be on Cain. Cain by decision was at +900 or so before the line took a hit. I think it's quite possible to. I think Brock's cardio will be better than people think it will be. On top of that, I don't think Cain is likely to KO Brock. Carwin couldn't do it, if that guy can't knock you out I don't know who can. He railed Brock, and Brock was smiling at the beginning of the next round.

I only see Cain winning by outpointing him standing and maybe some Wrestling control in the later rounds. I wouldn't be shocked to see Cain submit Lesnar but it would have to be at a point where Lesnar is beat up/tired.

[brooks85]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

Heh you usually have the right side of the line with Brock. I had Carwin last time, you had Brock. This time I will probably be on Cain. Cain by decision was at +900 or so before the line took a hit. I think it's quite possible to. I think Brock's cardio will be better than people think it will be. On top of that, I don't think Cain is likely to KO Brock. Carwin couldn't do it, if that guy can't knock you out I don't know who can. He railed Brock, and Brock was smiling at the beginning of the next round.

I only see Cain winning by outpointing him standing and maybe some Wrestling control in the later rounds. I wouldn't be shocked to see Cain submit Lesnar but it would have to be at a point where Lesnar is beat up/tired.

then you were on the right side, right side doesnt always win tho. And the only reason carwin could not ko brock in round 1 was because he was gassing rapidly and had an adrenaline dump. If those things did not happen brock would have got his head smashed in for another round. Anything that happened in round 2 is irrelevant for capping any of brock's future matchups. After gassing in round 1, carwin was clearly useless in round 2, his attempt to stuff the TD was clearly evident of that.

[Luke]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

then you were on the right side, right side doesnt always win tho. And the only reason carwin could not ko brock in round 1 was because he was gassing rapidly and had an adrenaline dump. If those things did not happen brock would have got his head smashed in for another round. Anything that happened in round 2 is irrelevant for capping any of brock's future matchups. After gassing in round 1, carwin was clearly useless in round 2, his attempt to stuff the TD was clearly evident of that.

LOL @ everything you just said

[brooks85]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

do you find the truth funny or just dick riding brock?

[Luke]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

do you find the truth funny or just dick riding brock?

The old "right side" arguement and the "if this" and "if that" didnt happen I would have won . Thats what I find funny .

[brooks85]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

its called paying attention to detail, you should try it. You might actually get yourself into the + because it does me wonders.

[Luke]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

its called paying attention to detail, you should try it. You might actually get yourself into the + because it does me wonders.

Maybe you should have paid attention to detail and seen Carwin had never went passed one round before you decided to bet him in a 5 round fight.

Of course Carwins best round is the 5th round

[brooks85]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

I bet carwin last fight?

hmm i could have swore I didnt, though it was clearly the right side to anyone who knows how to cap. You will get there.


I thought I had 2 jackpot parlays, one riding on brock and one on carwin so I was in a win/win situation and I won.

[Luke]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

^^^^ I give up .You're right Carwin was the right side .I'm emailing matchbook right now to see if they'll take back my Lesnar bet

[brooks85]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

giving up would not be a bad idea, since you are in the negative.